Quickies: More updates
The City Beat is gonna try something new. I'll throw stuff out as I notice them during the day. This week might be a slow one because I'm doing research on taxes.
* NYT's got a story about which states are getting the college students and which ones aren't. North Dakota, Montana, Vermont and Maine aren't.
On the bright side, this could be a strength in the future as the high-draw states fill up and it's harder to get in.
"In states with low capacity, look for places with tuition benefits like the ones the state provides," Mr. (David A.) Longanecker says. "North Dakota will give you a hell of a deal. My guess is in the future, there will be some pretty good deals in Midwestern universities."
Longanecker is executive director of the Western Interstate Commission for Higher Education, based in Boulder, Colo.
Sorry, you'll have to register with NYT.
* Interesting tidbit in Fargo Forum's interview with Lars Moller, the Danish-born president of DMI, about the Danish wind energy industry. Grand Forks' wind turbine plant is owned by Denmark-based LM Glasfiber.
* One year anniversary of Grand Forks' smoking ban. Biz reporter Elisa Rineheart has a story today and the people responsible for the ban, the Grand Forks Tobacco Free Coalition, have released a survey of public opinion on the ban. Check here tomorrow for the story on the survey.
Update 12:06 p.m., 8/1/06: Looks like JGS restarted the My Grand Forks blog again. Good. These quickies are hard when there are fewer blogs to link to.
* Grand Forks Guy sees a new coffee shop at Columbia Mall.
Update 3:06 p.m., 8/1/06: Dakota's got a funny interview with some big chicken. Reminds me of this conversation, though it's far more ridiculous.
Update 6:39 p.m., 8/1/06: Photographer Mike Mohaupt is one of two artists on exhibit at the Third Street Gallery in downtown Grand Forks. Mikey works for the Herald occasionally. The other artist is Mariah Masilko.
* NYT's got a story about which states are getting the college students and which ones aren't. North Dakota, Montana, Vermont and Maine aren't.
On the bright side, this could be a strength in the future as the high-draw states fill up and it's harder to get in.
"In states with low capacity, look for places with tuition benefits like the ones the state provides," Mr. (David A.) Longanecker says. "North Dakota will give you a hell of a deal. My guess is in the future, there will be some pretty good deals in Midwestern universities."
Longanecker is executive director of the Western Interstate Commission for Higher Education, based in Boulder, Colo.
Sorry, you'll have to register with NYT.
* Interesting tidbit in Fargo Forum's interview with Lars Moller, the Danish-born president of DMI, about the Danish wind energy industry. Grand Forks' wind turbine plant is owned by Denmark-based LM Glasfiber.
* One year anniversary of Grand Forks' smoking ban. Biz reporter Elisa Rineheart has a story today and the people responsible for the ban, the Grand Forks Tobacco Free Coalition, have released a survey of public opinion on the ban. Check here tomorrow for the story on the survey.
Update 12:06 p.m., 8/1/06: Looks like JGS restarted the My Grand Forks blog again. Good. These quickies are hard when there are fewer blogs to link to.
* Grand Forks Guy sees a new coffee shop at Columbia Mall.
Update 3:06 p.m., 8/1/06: Dakota's got a funny interview with some big chicken. Reminds me of this conversation, though it's far more ridiculous.
Update 6:39 p.m., 8/1/06: Photographer Mike Mohaupt is one of two artists on exhibit at the Third Street Gallery in downtown Grand Forks. Mikey works for the Herald occasionally. The other artist is Mariah Masilko.
posted by Tu-Uyen at 1:21 PM
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UND has been quite openly recruiting students from out of state for quite some time, telling all that tuition is lower here than students' home states. I'm wondering what the reaction of ND citizens will be when it gets to the point that. a majority of students there are not North Dakotans.
"Should it matter where the students come from?"
Well over a decade ago, Mike Jacobs did an an op-ed column on the subject of xenophobia in ND, tracing its roots and commenting on its effects. This generated several letters which confirmed that, no matter how long you lived in ND, if you weren't born here, you were considered a foreigner. The best example of this, vis-a-vis higher ed, was Dr. Odegard of Minot's attempts to get measures on the ballot eliminating ND's tuition receprocity agreements with neighboring states. The rationale was: "Why should we pay to educate non-NoDakers?" I would not be surprised if this is still held by many ND natives. Once "foreigners" outnumber natives on the UND campus, the slogan will rise again.
Thanks, Semireg. It has been updated.
Alaska gets a lot of college students because of the opportunity for outdoor sports. Mountain climbing, kayaking, hunting, fishing, etc. It's a big draw (speaking from the fact that I'm an Alaskan native).
As for outmigration, it isn't a great thing...but it isn't anything we should be rushing to fix either. Way too many people want to pass laws and provide incentives (at the expense of taxpayers) to encourage kids to stay. I think that's a bit foolish as, ultimately, the outmigration problem is one that will fix itself.
It's simple supply and demand. Over the last several decades there have been some major changes in the ag industry (mostly the advent of new machinery that allows more land to be farmed with less manpower) which has caused people to move off the farms into the city. This has caused a glut in available labor for other types of business and industry to many younger kids were forced to leave the state to find career opportunities.
I think we're just now catching up what with the population decline seeming to have mostly stopped (or at least slowed to a trickle) and unemployment at a rock-bottom low.
The demand for workers is relatively high now (though the cost of living/wage level canard still fools a lot of people into moving away) thanks mostly to all the people who have left. If the demand remains high wages will eventually get higher as well businesses compete for workers.
Once wages start to go up outmigration should reverse and we should see an influx of people.
This is the subject of my next Dakota Beacon column (working on it now) if any of you here read the publication.
It's a cool little magazine...but of course, I'm a bit biased.
;-)
The extended daylight is sort of offset by the extended darkness in the winter. Which can be hard to deal with, believe you me.
North Dakota universities might have a cost advantage, but double-digit tuition increases the past few years have lessened that advantage. School administrators and facutly have gotten greedy and are now paying the price.
Let's face it, ND is not well respected in other parts of the country, so inexpensive tuition was about the only real draw we had. As it increases, our pool of potential students decreases.
Off topic but my favorite quote: “If kids were smart,” he says, “they would look at the inverse of the population chart. But that is generally not how students and parents behave. They look at where other people go.”
ugh, tax research?
A reporter who loves the numbers is a rare bird, Rick, but it's a useful skill to have. "Follow the money" is great advice but it ain't much use if you don't know how to use a spreadsheet.
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